The Business Pickle is closed. Here's what happened.

The honest version of what we built, what it cost, what went wrong, and what I'd do differently.

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The Business Pickle is closed. Here's what happened.

The Business Pickle, the sustainability strategy business Gillian and I started as a side venture to Harvey, is now closed.

Over about two years we produced three in-depth research reports, a podcast series with business leaders and experts, ran a launch event, and delivered a few sustainability strategies for clients. We built some genuine credibility, a modest audience, and a pipeline of work that could've turned it into a real business. It didn't, and after roughly 18 months of proper effort we made the call to wind it down.

I wanted to write this down honestly. What we built, what it cost, what went wrong, and what I'd do differently.

What we believed

The theory was pretty simple. Do detailed research and podcasts with business leaders and experts in each field, and that would get organic interest, some SEO, maybe some viral reach. The content had a bit of broad appeal because it's interesting, and targeted appeal per topic. That interest builds the brand, the brand generates leads, the leads become strategy work.

Half of that happened. The content did establish credibility, when we got in the room people took us seriously as having real subject matter knowledge. But it didn't build our brand or leads. Getting in the room still had to happen the old fashioned way.

What it cost and what it returned

I'll be specific with the numbers because vague versions of these stories aren't useful to anyone.

  • Investment: about 80% of a full-time person (Gillian) for the life of the business, plus around $10k in design and publishing costs
  • Revenue: approx $50k, from three delivered strategy projects
  • Pipeline: another $300-400k in proposals. None converted.
  • Leads: maybe 50 over time, mostly low quality

The audience numbers, which for a two-person side venture I'm actually proud of:

  • ~37,000 website visitors (still getting 500 a month, which is partly why this page exists)
  • 250 report downloads, plus another 200 from our launch event report
  • ~400 subscribers
  • 8,100 podcast watches and listens
  • A launch event with 150 attendees, 50 in person

The indirect benefit was harder to measure but real. Building relationships with experts and leaders, and learning from them, which informed the strategy work we did deliver, and fed back into Harvey.

Could we have done it leaner? Probably. Short rapid interviews, or targeted articles, rather than a comprehensive in-depth report on each topic. Still not sure it would've worked or been beneficial, but we would've found out cheaper. (This is a theme, you'll notice.)

The nearlys

The hardest part of this story isn't the failures, it's the nearlys.

We had five serious proposals with major organisations, leaders in their sectors across telco, finance, food & beverage, and technology. One we got through a tender process, didn't win, and they ultimately paused the work anyway. Three others were engaged and ready, or in progress, and paused because of changes in business conditions (struggling financially, got bought out, etc). One we part-delivered and then it went nowhere.

Three of those projects could've changed the direction of the business. Cornerstone clients, established credibility and reputation. There was always the chance it could've gone off.

After the fifth proposal with lots of engagement paused or said no, we knew it wasn't right. And the pattern wasn't just us. The market for genuine sustainability strategy and change (not just reporting and compliance) cooled down, and kept getting tighter over the following years. Organisations pulled back from their sustainability strategies partially or entirely, having to pivot to core operations and financial sustainability. At the same time there was huge growth in consultants in the space, including established leaders getting stronger. For a two-person side business, that was a really hard time to be starting out.

What we got wrong

We went too hard on content, top of funnel, and broad. Comprehensive reports are expensive and slow, and ours didn't land or go viral the way we hoped. Being a content publisher is super hard to cut through. If we went more directly into strategy work, targeted outreach, direct conversations, we might've got revenue sooner and learned faster.

We should've pivoted sooner. Gillian actually sensed it wasn't working before I did. I was still keen and optimistic, and the nearlys kept feeding that. She had the foresight to call it, and she was right. I should've called it earlier.

We were missing a dedicated sales/consulting person. Gillian brought sustainability knowledge and experience, was excellent at writing, and at building relationships. I brought the sales and consulting side, but not specialised in this space, and not 100% focused on the business. Another person who was consulting-focused may have changed the equation.

The separate brand was probably right, eventually. Harvey really is brand, marketing & tech, which is very different, so long term keeping it separate probably made sense. And having a separate brand made it very clear to people this was new and different and specialised, it helped cut through in the conversations we did have. But maybe in the short term we should've started under Harvey, got some traction and insight, and then considered a separate brand.

What it cost Harvey, and what it gave back

Worth being straight about this since you're reading it on Harvey's website. The Business Pickle cost Harvey a salary, some costs, and a bit of my attention. Harvey was doing very well in its own right the whole time, and the relationships and activities did generate some leads and profile for Harvey too. Not enough to justify the investment, but a nice benefit. And the learning came home with us.

The bigger lesson about impact

Something I believe now that I only half believed then. Most sustainability work in businesses is focused on reporting and compliance. Some organisations are doing real changes, where sustainability is core to the operations, and they're the exception worth celebrating.

But achieving proper impact, actually improving the impact of businesses at scale, requires broader systems change, driven by organisations like ACSI, ALCA, RIAA and CAF, who shape the frameworks, capital flows and expectations that individual companies respond to. (Who happen to be Harvey's clients, so in a way I get to keep working on the problem from a different angle.)

One boutique consultancy nudging one company at a time was always going to be a small lever. That's not a reason not to do it, but it changed my view on where the leverage actually sits.

Gillian

None of this happens without Gillian. She was a superstar, delivered a super high quality of work and insight, was really accountable, led things, and created so much of it. The research, the writing, the relationships.

And when it was time, she had the clarity to call it before I did. The wind down was natural and organic, not what we wanted, but handled the way you'd hope. We're still very good friends, and she's gone on to create a new brand and other creative work, which I have no doubt will be excellent.

We were also supported by a bunch of really smart people who are committed to business for impact, who gave advice, made connections, helped with strategy, and were involved in delivering projects. They enriched our minds and ideas and I'm eternally grateful.

What happens now

The reports are moving here onto the Harvey website as a few articles. The podcast episodes and videos are still up on the streaming platforms. The old domain now redirects to this page. Nothing we made disappears, it just has a new home.

Was it worth it?

Yes. It wasn't profitable, but it was worth it.

We did high quality work and committed to it properly. We delivered a few strategies that could've had real impact. Somewhere between 500 and 1,000 people read, watched or listened to things we made that may have helped or influenced them. And we learned a huge amount, about content, markets, timing, and ourselves, that's already making Harvey better.

I'm still glad I did it, gave it a crack. I just wish we'd pivoted a bit sooner.

Thanks for reading, and to everyone who was part of the pickle.

Simon

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Maintain current ownership and governance

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  • Harvey is 100% owned by the Smallchua Family Trust. Rebecca Smallchua is our sole Director.

Share templates, documents, insight into business for good

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  • We’ve officially made all our policies and procedures publicly available here along with our past and current impact reports — sharing our lessons, tools, and insights openly. Something we’ve wanted to do properly for years and glad we finally got it sorted.
  • Maintain B Corp score from 134.1 with workers included
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  • No change here. We’re up for recertification next year and looking forward to exploring the new B Corp standards. We shared our experience of recertification from the previous year here.

We’re exploring profit share, and employee ownership models with the team

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  • Team feedback indicates a preference for a profit-share model rather than equity, as it is simpler, clearer and easier to manage. While there is no urgency from the team, there is interest in defining the approach in more detail. Our informal research also shows that many organisations find equity schemes complex and often less motivating in practice. What people value more is being paid properly, doing meaningful work and a healthy, supportive culture.

Be climate positive at work and at home

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  • We don’t track our CO2 emissions, rather we take a much more general and high emissions view. However, this year, we didn’t donate to the environment (see above) so we can’t say we countered our CO2.
  • We continue to choose Hub as our office space for co-working who are Carbon Neutral Certified. Our overall carbon emissions are mostly contributed by our technology usage and we haven’t got a very detailed view on what that is and how to offset it.

To be updated: Donate 5% revenue to the environment

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  • We delivered this as $55k of pro bono service to RIAA who are the leading industry body in Australia and New Zealand dedicated to aligning investment capital with a healthy society, environment and economy. We believe where you invest — and how you choose to use your money — has a powerful impact on people and the planet.
  • Going forward our plan is to commit 50% of profits to invest in clean tech enterprises and/or donations to charitable organisations fighting climate change.

Re-use, recycle and manage dangerous waste

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  • We continue to implement our hazardous waste policy and are on a continuous learning and improvement journey.
  • We repair damaged hardware and minimise purchasing of new equipment.
  • Personally we're all Facebook Marketplace fans.

Advocate for sustainable business

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  • We only did one small action this year supporting Business for 75. A coalition of organisations calling on the Australian Government to commit to at least a 75% emissions reduction target by 2035, because strong climate action is essential for Australia’s future — and good for business.
  • Sarah also personally contributed to B Local Melbourne in various ways running events and engaging the community.

Protest and boycott important issues (Australia Day, Melbourne Cup)

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Buy with intention from local and discriminated groups

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We continue to be intentional about our suppliers as outlined in our policy and report the details in the Community section of the report.

To be confirmed: Invest $20k in impact businesses and $20k of pro bono time

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  • $0 impact investment. Over $55k 100% pro bono time.
  • We did not invest in impact businesses this year as we dedicated significantly more to probono & amazing discounts, and we didn’t have free cash on hand to do the investment.
  • We will be better at managing our impact allocations  — including impact discounts, cross-subsidies, pro bono work, donations, and investments in impact businesses or climate ETFs. 
  • The major pro bono contribution was  $55k of additional free services to RIAA who are the leading industry body in Australia and New Zealand dedicated to aligning investment capital with a healthy society, environment and economy. We believe where you invest — and how you choose to use your money — has a powerful impact on people and the planet.

Begin a Reconciliation Action Plan

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  • We again looked into starting a RAP this year, but with the administrative requirements for a business of our size, we decided to focus our efforts on taking meaningful action instead outlined in our Community chapter here.

All staff spend 75%+ of their time on clients

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  • Spent 66% of our time on clients. 
  • Our forecasting/financials is based on 65%, but our target is obviously higher to give us a buffer. We are happy with 66%, but will continue to aim to increase this.
  • The 34% broken down into 23% operations, 8% business development, 3% learning. Slightly more on ops, less on learning & business development (Sales/Marketing) than FY24.
  • We spent less time on admin, impact reporting, marketing, formal training & recruitment, and more on client admin, team activities, onboarding and self-learning on projects.

Regular, honest check-ins about how we feel

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  • Stand ups, development sessions, watercooler chats, impact updates and more.

Targeted and clear personal growth, if we are better our clients will be

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  • Continued with our personal goal setting questionnaires that ask the big questions of where we want to go and how we’ll get there. Also lots of accountability check-ins. 

Improve and increase capability across team 

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  • Raising our emotional health levels through a leadership development program with Global Leadership Foundation.
  • Expanding output skills: Market research, Web design, content & copywriting, strategy & development and automation strategy.

9 day fortnights, with option for 4 day weeks

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  • 60% work 9 day fortnights, 30% part-time hours, 10% standard working hours.

Gradually grow the team to 7 people

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  • We ended the year getting ready to onboard our 7th team member in July 2025.
  • In FY24/25 Alex joined us as Senior Designer (Brand & Digital) and Simon Hoye came on board as Head of Technology.

No destructive clients. Revenue 10% Good, 65% Great, 25% Amazing

(Here’s what the classifications mean)

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  • No destructive clients. Revenue breakdown: 6.5% Good, 59% Great, 33% Amazing
  • We were well under on Good and over on Amazing which improves impact and puts pressure on us financially. We’re now managing allocation more carefully each month.

Client survey metrics

  • 100% good value for money. (3 / 5 value for money (1 - ‘could charge less’ and 5 - ‘could charge more’)
  • 8 / 10 likely to recommend
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  • All metrics are on or over target
    • 3.5 / 5 value for money
    • 8.5 / 10 likely to recommend
    • 82 NPS

$1.03m revenue (Up by 23% from FY 23/24). Ambitious, we know!

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  • $916,460 - +10% YoY but under our of +23%,
  • The main reasons we didn’t hit target were scope creep and overruns as well as exceeding the Amazing impact discount.
  • Maintain B Corp score from 134.1 with workers included
🟢
  • We officially re-certified in November 2023, and are pleased to report we achieved the same score (to the decimal point). Wild! We shared our experience of recertification here.
  • Share templates, documents, insight into business for good
🟠
  • We haven't done this publicly, but when people have asked, we have shared. And we're sharing a series of things as part of this impact report.
  • Maintain current ownership and governance
🟢
  • Harvey is 100% owned by the Smallchua Family Trust. Rebecca Smallchua is our sole Director.
  • Re-use, recycle and manage dangerous waste
🟢
  • We continue to implement our hazardous waste policy and are on a continuous learning and improvement journey.
  • We repair damaged hardware and minimise purchasing of new equipment.
  • Personally we're all Facebook Marketplace fans.
  • Be climate positive at work and at home
🟠
  • We don't track our CO2 emissions, rather we take a much more general and high emissions view. However, this year, we didn't donate to the environment (see above) so we can't say we countered our CO2.
  • Advocate for climate change / inspire sustainable living
🟢
  • We hosted a panel event on Zero Emissions Day in September 2023, along with our friends at Portable, where we interviewed industry experts on the opportunity to engage with community and work towards a more sustainable future. Recording here.
  • Donate 5% to the environment
🔴
  • We didn't make the donation this year as we're revisiting our impact giving model - more details here
  • Invest $20k in impact businesses plus $20k of pro bono time
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  • We delivered some pro bono time but dropped the ball and had no official measurements in place.
  • We also did not invest $20k in impact businesses, and are reviewing this goal going forward. In the last 12 months, our three Impact Investments all lost their value (Whole Kids, Pronto Bottle & Kester Black). While it's not great, we accept this is part of ambitious investing, and each had their own challenges that they couldn't quite overcome.
  • Buy with intention from local and discriminated groups
🟢
  • We continue to be intentional about our suppliers as outlined in our policy and report the details in the Community chapter of our report.
  • Protest and boycott important issues (Australia Day, Melbourne Cup)
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  • Yes and yes!
  • 9 day fortnights, with option for 4 day weeks
🟢
  • 80% work 9 day fortnights, 40% part-time hours, 10% standard working hours.
  • Improve and increase capability across team
🟢
  • Raising our emotional health levels through a leadership development program with Global Leadership Foundation.
  • Expanding output skills: Market research, Web design, content & copywriting, strategy & development and automation strategy.
  • Targeted and clear personal growth, if we are better our clients will be
🟢
  • A new process for 360 feedback, plus personal goal setting questionnaires that ask the big questions of where we want to go and how we'll get there. Also lots of accountability check-ins.

Client survey metrics

  • 3 / 5 value for money (1 - 'could charge less' and 5 - 'could charge more')
  • 8 / 10 likely to recommend
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  • 3.4 / 5 value for money
  • 9.2 / 10 likely to recommend

No destructive clients. Revenue breakdown: 17% Good, 59% Great, 24% Amazing

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  • No destructive clients.
  • Revenue breakdown: 17% Good, 59% Great, 24% Amazing (A little over on Good and under on Great, but on target for Amazing - which is most important, so we're happy with that)
  • All staff spend 80%+ of their time on clients
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  • Spent 64% of our time on clients (under). Due to team changes (recruitment, onboarding and offboarding) and extra investment in training, personal development and community engagement (e.g. B Local), we did not hit this target. On reflection, we will think 80% is too ambitious and we'll be revising to 70% going forward.
  • Regular, honest check-ins about how we feel
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  • Stand ups, development sessions, watercooler chats, impact updates and more.

$994k revenue (Up $211k on FY2223)

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  • $833,588. Revenue was up 6% YoY. Midway through the year, we adjusted down our target to $879k as team growth / services shifted. The main reasons we didn't hit target were scope creep and overruns, both of which we're trying to manage better with process improvements.
  • Maintain B Corp score from 134.1 with workers included
🟢
  • We applied for our B Corp re-certification at the end of this financial year and are pleased to report we achieved the same score (to the decimal point). Wild!
  • Share templates, documents, insight into business for good
🟠
  • We haven't actively done this publicly, but when people have asked, we have shared. And we're sharing a series of things as part of this impact report.
  • Maintain current ownership and governance
🟢
  • Harvey is 100% owned by the Smallchua Family Trust and Rebecca Smallchua is our sole Director.
  • Re-use, recycle and manage dangerous waste
🟢
  • We continue to implement our hazardous waste policy and are on a continuous learning and improvement journey.
  • We repair damaged hardware and minimise purchasing of new equipment.
  • Personally we're all Facebook Marketplace fans.
  • Donate 5% to the environment
🔴
  • We fell short here, we didn't make the donation. More details here.
  • Advocate for climate change / inspire sustainable living
🟢
  • Be climate positive at work and at home
🟠
  • We don't track our CO2 emissions, rather we take a much more general and high emissions view. However, this year, we didn't donate to the environment (see above) so we can't say we countered our CO2.
  • Protest and boycott important issues (Australia Day, Melbourne Cup)
🟢
  • Have a RAP, engaged stakeholders and implemented more change
🔴
  • Due to competing priorities and limited time (no lack in desire) we de-prioritised our Reconciliation Action Plan as we want to do it meaningfully and have the capacity to follow through. However, we took a few first steps outlined here.
  • Buy with intention from local and discriminated groups
🟢
  • We continue to be intentional about our suppliers as outlined in our policy and report the details in the Community chapter of our report. We took it one step further this year with a public call to pledge to audit suppliers in this campaign www.supplier-impact.com
  • Invest $20k in impact businesses plus $20k of 100% pro bono time
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  • We delivered some pro bono time but dropped the ball and had no official measurements in place. We also did not invest $20k in impact businesses because of the reduced revenue with Becky on maternity leave.
  • Sarah personally donated her photography equipment valued at around $7,500 to empower a content and brand producer in the Solomon Islands.
  • 9 day fortnights, with option for 4 day weeks
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  • 40% work 9 day fortnights, 40% part-time hours, 20% standard working hours.
  • Improve and increase capability across team
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  • Elevated our tool nerd level. See here.
  • Expanding output skills: Market research, Web design, strategy & development, video editing, and automation strategy.
  • Targeted and clear personal growth, if we are better our clients will be
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  • Lots of on-the-tools growth, structured learning through weekly Lunch 'n Learns and Intro to Programming at RMIT.

No destructive clients. Revenue breakdown: 15% Good, 60% Great, 25% Amazing (Here's what the classifications mean)

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  • No destructive clients.
  • Revenue breakdown: 10% Good, 66% Great, 25% Amazing
  • All staff spend 70%+ of their time on clients
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  • Spent 71% of our time on clients (over by only 76 hours).

Client survey metrics

  • 3 /5 value for money
  • 8 / 10 likely to recommend
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  • 3.4 / 5 value for money
  • 8.8 / 10 likely to recommend

Maintain current revenue

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  • Revenue down 16% YoY
  • Regular, honest check-ins about how we feel
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  • Stand ups, development sessions, watercooler chats, impact updates and more.
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ABCH
Abundant Water
ACSI
ALCA
Anantaya Jewellery
Artist Engineering
ATEC
Australian Garcli
Bank Australia
B Lab ANZ
BZE
Campervan Rental Guide
Certification O
Chaulk
Clean Focus
Client Fabric
Clockwork Films
Common Ground
Compass Studio
CPSN
Curated with Conscience
Cyclion
Dog & Bone
Envirotecture
Evee
Farm My School
Fellten
Firesticks
Fresco Secco
Gewürzhaus
Global Leadership Foundation
Goodtel
Green Collar
Hagens Organics
Hara
Hey Doodle
iDE
Interspan
Jasper Coffee
Jaunt
KingPump
KOSI
Lee Christison
Love Tribe Yoga
Lumen
LVLY
Maine Wellness
Marnie Hawson
Merry People
MIIROKO
Milkcan
MK Local Foods
Nexa Advisory
No Lights No Lycra
North West Guadalcanal Association (NWGA)
OBG
One Small Step
Orange Ninja
Pacer Digital
Parliament of Victoria
Peninsula Hot Springs
Pixii
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Possible
Prisma Legal
ReCo
Responsible Investment Association Australasia
Shadowboxer
Strongim Bisnis
Studio Schools Australia
SupaGarlic
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The Next Economy
The Salvage Yard
The Sociable Weaver
THL Tourism Holdings Limited
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22 Bricks
ABCH
Abundant Water
ACSI
ALCA
Anantaya Jewellery
Artist Engineering
ATEC
Australian Garcli
Bank Australia
B Lab ANZ
BZE
Campervan Rental Guide
Certification O
Chaulk
Clean Focus
Client Fabric
Clockwork Films
Common Ground
Compass Studio
CPSN
Curated with Conscience
Cyclion
Dog & Bone
Envirotecture
Evee
Farm My School
Fellten
Firesticks
Fresco Secco
Gewürzhaus
Global Leadership Foundation
Goodtel
Green Collar
Hagens Organics
Hara
Hey Doodle
iDE
Interspan
Jasper Coffee
Jaunt
KingPump
KOSI
Lee Christison
Love Tribe Yoga
Lumen
LVLY
Maine Wellness
Marnie Hawson
Merry People
MIIROKO
Milkcan
MK Local Foods
Nexa Advisory
No Lights No Lycra
North West Guadalcanal Association (NWGA)
OBG
One Small Step
Orange Ninja
Pacer Digital
Parliament of Victoria
Peninsula Hot Springs
Pixii
Portable
Possible
Prisma Legal
ReCo
Responsible Investment Association Australasia
Shadowboxer
Strongim Bisnis
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